we do that too. You can do as much or as little as you want. This is also an important year because the trend is for everyone to do fellowships now. 100% Upvoted. Being an orthopedic surgeon is no simple task and therefore requires many hardships to reach in that very position. Hardly anyone turns away free eager labor, Final tip and most important. Our rotations at that time were trauma, joints, and spine. I am an orthopedic surgeon on the east coast. I have medical students that come through to shadow sometimes and that can be fun but it’s hard to really teach anything in a week or two. A new Medscape poll probes doctor lifestyles. On the side i have a lot of different side hustles including IMES, case reviews, and even some locum work. Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts Session 19 Today, I'm going to do a deep dive into some match data for orthopedic surgery, which is known to be one of the more competitive specialties out there. There's a raging debate as to how much the OITE actually correlates with board pass rates. Are you under constant stress? 10 Worst Medical Specialties For Lifestyle Published on April 26, 2017 at 1:07 am by Madison Morgan in Lists Share Tweet Email Sure some will argue that that work get better results and what not, but like everything there's a limit. Depending on the program, you should be mostly surgery heavy. There are still lots of private practice jobs, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. You will definitely have complications -everyone does or they are liars. Ok the way your question is phrased hints that you think that it’s one or the other.... all orthopedic surgeons work AT a hospital. We for the most part like that PM&R will do some of the needle stuff, but sometimes pain docs come across as milking the patient for money with a hundred shots (some of these notes have like trigger point, facet blocks, and a bunch of stuff that together seem questionable). Initially was a general ortho surgeon doing bread and butter stuff out in the boonies. 3-7% in practice and I believe 10-15% of residents are now female. So I would say that from a supply demand standpoint, due to the immense supply of MSK complaints, ortho is even more in shortage than most of the fields out there. The question is if they are employed BY the hospital. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Now i'm in a larger city doing trauma related hospitalist/surgicalist gig. The peds rotation was great because you did everything surgery wise, but also almost harder than 2nd year in terms of trauma because if you're in a western state, the cachement area for peds is huge. When we do BKAs and the like, we appreciate PM&R taking over from the rehab side of things. Grades honestly don’t matter -just don’t fail. You said you're a PD. This is also a time when you reflect on how poor you are. Try to learn the indications for the cases you're participating in. Because of that, we've created our own shortage. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I have seen some programs with a 6th year with one year dedicated to research. Let me add an answer that is relevant, I believe, but from a slightly different perspective. If you don't know something, ask. Unlike residency apps, fellowships aren't as hard to get into unless you're looking for a top 5 program. Reasons to do Ortho: Lifestyle: People really misunderstand an ortho surgeon's lifestyle. There will be an even greater shortage of ortho surgeons due to this phenomenon. Also, do you get the opportunity to teach or work in academia through a teaching hospital affiliation even though you work primarily in private practice? Our surgeons collaborate with every department across SAGE to ensure your pet has access to the most advanced medical and surgical care. Everyone from a 600 mile radius will call you about some peds stuff, so it's exhausting. Scopes? If we run through the approach/case with you and specifically highlight certain anatomy, try to remember it for if/when someone asks you in the OR. Overall, we expect you to be available/affable >>> able. That could be ortho. As to comfort I can’t really say. Reddit's home for wholesome discussion related to pre-medical studies. no comments yet. Close • Posted by just now. Mostly I just love orthopedic Surgery so even when I’m not “working” I’m reading about it. They can be helpful and profitable in the office. I went to a school that was one of the last ones to be old school. I can speak to a sample of 1, uncle, Jeff, who I’ve written about before: Handsome fellow, right? In 3rd year, we had a bit of a reprieve and mostly did 3 month rotation blocks in hand, VA general, hand at county, and spine again. At our small hospital only the vascular surgeons were in the ER more when on call. I'm assuming you're a guy based on the general m/f ratio in the field, but would you happen to know how women do in the field and how comfortable they feel during residency and after? There is no way anyone is going to let them fix femurs and tibias so they don’t threaten my job security. Do you guys have any questions about medicine, surgery, medical school, residency, fellowship, lifestyle, salary etc? Once you are an attending it’s all on you and you have to get things done. Some are easier, some suck... 2nd/3rd year: Everyone's experiences will be different. Thanks. Surgeons of reddit, what’s it like being in the OR saving a life? 4th/5th year: You're essentially a chief resident at this point. If not it helps if the person is well known in the community. However there are other academic programs where it's really focused on. If you are looking for an academic position after training, then it becomes slightly more important. The good is that you'll have a slightly better lifestyle. As a surgicalist, i work seven 24 hour shifts a month and get 23 days off, so my lifestyle i would argue is better than most. They say MSK pain/problems is 80% of a general medicine practice. We have the expertise to provide the appropriate level of care for your needs. The highest average number of procedures performed monthly (35) is by orthopedic surgeons in the 40 to 49 age bracket. Dr. Viess is a board-certified orthopedic surgeon, with fellowship training in sports medicine and arthroscopic surgery. Not sure what your 2nd question is. Brain/cancer mostly, and they get a CUT in pay. Edit: The idea that surgeons are too busy to reddit is hilarious. Thoughts on DO students in the match? We also know you more than likely haven't reduced and splinted a ton (any?) And so, they have to receive many benefits to lead a comfortable, stress-free life. It can run from the mundane to the frantic intense. Also lifestyle angle, not sure I’ve met many lifestyle oriented neurosurgeons. But more helpful would be if you "fit in" like the ortho bros. And that of course is program dependent. In Ortho, you could live in a town of 10k and be fine. So instead of one guy taking care of the entire body, it takes 6 surgeons to do the same work. share. They make 1 mil prolly. Topics ... and burnout. How hard do you want to work? If your rotation orientation said weeknight call goes until midnight, 2am, etc, don't watch the clock and peace out as soon as the clock strikes 12. The other model of employment is hospital employed position. I'm wondering how much research experience your residents have? Also Known As: Green Scalpel, Geurin Meseu, Green Mass. But in smaller towns, this will become an issue. handbook of fractures is good, but I think orthobullets is better these days. Otherwise ... again for me it’s a no brainer. I knew it. Never knew i wanted to do ortho in med school. Our surgeons have practiced in large university-based medical facilities and trauma centers. Our program was academic, but didn't really focus on research. save. He earned his medical degree from Chicago Medical School, where he … It was middle of the road. Surgeons of reddit, what’s it like being in the OR saving a life? Try to make the resident's life easier (i.e. Hopefully attendings will leave you in the room by yourself and you can go skin to skin without interruption. I keep hearing stories of there being fewer and fewer private practices in existence and doctors being pushed back into hospitals, Also lots of people coming out of residency want to work for a hospital system because the starting salaries are higher - sometimes 500K or more, But usually after 2 years they move the goal posts and you hit a ceiling with your income and in the long run most private practice surgeons have higher incomes. And the most intelligent questions are when you’ve already read up on it beforehand. I know surgeons working at Kaiser that work 35-40 hours a week and make 400k. The Broward program, which is a dually accredited AOA/ACGME orthopedic surgery residency, recently received 450 applications for 3 training slots. As a surgicalist, i work seven 24 hour shifts a month and get 23 days off, so my lifestyle i would argue is better than most. Log in or sign up to leave a comment Log In Sign Up. We (at least at my program) will teach you. Thus another reason why everyone does a fellowship, not out of interest but pure necessity. 238. Then 4 years in medical school. This is what I do. 5 year vs 7 year residency. Surgeries: I once made a post that i think ortho has the most broad and numerous amounts of surgeries. The life of a surgeon is all about choices, starting with the career we chose, then the partner(s), both personal and business. Out of control. Press J to jump to the feed. As another side note, residency programs are a lot easier than even when i did it. One of my favorite teachers in residency was a DO and he’s still kicking ass, Did you start out working in a hospital and if so would you recommend continuing to work there for your career or is it better to move to private practice? Back when i used to be a mp3 bot for AOL giving away music. So there's never an end to the fun. Orthopedic surgeons deal with the entire musculoskeletal system, from birth until our last breath of life. The Surgeon’s Cut is a new four part documentary offering a glimpse into the world of surgery by telling the personal stories of four exceptional surgeons, which will stream on Netflix. You people have evolved beyond the need for sleep, or food. Step scores I/II were 254. I think you should consider what you'll be doing besides spine in either. The good ol' days. Yes women are definitely desired at most programs and it is now an asset to you if you are a female applicant. Press J to jump to the feed. There will be a moment where you reach the singularity point and all that training comes together. report. Welcome to the clinical practice of Dr. Elrashidy. Ask away, Work 4 days a week Monday Office 8-4 Tuesday OR usually done by 330 Wednesday OFF Thursday OR 830-5 or sometimes later Friday Office 8-4, Call is every sixth weekend and 4 week days a month, This is my 4th year in practice and I made 650K, Some of my partners make a million a year some make 400K. Ortho docs spend 4 years in college. I try not to be home after 6 ever so I can put my kids to bed and I don’t bring work home with me, Went to Albany Med. Arthur J. Ting, M.D. Did some research and published towards 4th year, but almost after the fact in terms of applications. Surgeons of Reddit: can you describe what your lifestyle is like out of residency? So we did a junior and a senior research project, but it was mostly a joke. I have minimal research interests but still do a little. Work life balance is important. I have other friends who are employed general surgeons and work shifts, with call averaging 1 in 7; they trade their better lifestyle for a lower salary (and less control than they would have in PP). I don’t understand why people take their babies there in the weird videos I see on YouTube. This was back before they mandated 6 months of it be strictly ortho, which is awesome for the new residents. And bone. Maybe a couple of hours of work a month. The gen surg chiefs preferred ortho guys/gals because we took pride in our work and were here to stay (as opposed to transitions/prelims that were gone after a year). Neurosurg you’re dealing with ICU patients, shunts, cancer. Is this a common trend you see? Just happened to get lost one day 3rd year during my peds surg rotation and drop into a peds ortho hardware removal case. The proportion of surgeons who remain active past the age of 70 represented 5 percent of the total orthopedic workforce in 2006. Just pick up a few issues from the library and look for the names that show up twice a year + call them up and see if you can get in. If you're reading this and you're a resident who wants to share your specialty experience, check out this post to see some requests, and then start your own "Why you should go into X" thread in the sub. Know anatomy -- deforming forces on fractures, reds, blues and yellows as above. They are the ones who allows us to move, work and be active. This was at the tail end of the toxicity, so the groups ahead of us were sometimes bitter while we were right as rain. We call them needle jockeys. I’ve never been to one. You do the best you can so you can sleep at night with a good conscience. 0 comments. Depending on the rotation you need to know/quickly learn anatomy. Private practice? Because you can always find someone in pain and sometimes take advantage of them. I work 80-100 hours a week and still have plenty of time for hobbies and killing time on the internet. yep. Vampire. The minute i saw that shiny mallet, it was love at first sight. But i think unlike the other subspecialty surgical fields, the volume of ortho is IMMENSE. One of my good med school friends did neurosurg. Original title: 굿 닥터. When this next generation retires, the landscape of ortho will change even more. As a 2nd year, this is the feeling out period where the chief ortho residents decided whether you were worth something. Let's look at the data to see if this holds true. Residencies in orthopedic surgery take five years to complete, with applicants far outnumbering available slots. I was a 4th year AOA. You also could fall in love with another subspecialty theoretically. However these days theres alot more hospital employed surgeons. Residency years: Intern year: You're essentially another gen surg prelim. Dr. Viess is a native of San Mateo, CA and a graduate of Duke University. has been a practicing Orthopaedic Surgeon specializing in Sports Medicine for more than 38 years providing diagnosis and treatment of professional, collegiate and … Okay, but how much do I need to be able to bench to be considered competitive? This i believe has since changed, but 2nd year involved two 36 hour shifts tuesdays and thursdays and another 24 hour shift saturday, so you were working 100 hour weeks consistently for at least a 3 month rotation x 2 during our trauma service. Surgeons of reddit, are your lifestyles really as terrible as everyone thinks? He received his MD at Rush University followed by a 5 year Orthopedic Surgery Residency at Northwestern in Chicago. It's unfortunately something we will never live down. If you work in private practice, everything is incentivizing you to work because you're paying for overhead (staff, office, etc). If you fail, you will be ridiculed and bring shame to your program. Definitely reduces some of the hesitancy I have to dive into a surgical specialty. This is where reputations are made so first impressions were important. I am especially asking about it in terms of publications and research involvement, Research is a necessary evil. Close. Don't go MIA. Also, we have had many residents not AOA or had a Step 1 score below 230. Rotations vary between programs, ours included ICU, vascular, cardiothoracic, urology among others. The good side is once people figured you were ortho, you got more respect and residents tended to trust you more. In fact, we are designated as a Blue Distinction Center for Knee and Hip Replacement for demonstrating expertise in knee and hip replacement surgery (2016). Generally speaking you should know basic ortho trauma -- open fractures, ankle fractures, hip fractures, distal radius fx. I think this trend initially started to persuade people / fill people in on a field that was relatively unknown (PM&R). He is on staff at ValleyCare Memorial, San Ramon Regional Medical Center and Sutter Tracy. Let me explain. Well, my perception of the neurosurgeon lifestyle is, unfortunately, mixed. Just make sure you retain it so that when you see it again you have some semblance of knowledge about the fracture/anatomy/etc. Part of why i do locums is to fulfill this niche need. Ortho. Weird question, don't look at the username lol. Well, here is the straight poop on it from a guy who took call for orthopedics for over 30 years. Whenever possible, our surgeons use minimally invasive surgery techniques to lessen the impact of tissue injury and provide your pet … Welcome to /r/MedicalSchool: an international community for medical students. I think some community programs did even less. I don’t teach anymore since I left fellowship and started practice. Neurosurg is also more research oriented as most if not all programs are academic. Genres: Romance, Life, Drama, Medical. To get the volume you need to survive, chances are you’re living in a city. You're gonna have to learn to love the bone. I have friends with two, even three fellowships, which i think is insane. The short answer is, the best correlation is still STEP 1 scores and SAT/MCAT scores. In the cities, it's not a big deal because there's enough super specialized surgeons to fill all the gaps. So what i'm saying is, you'll never go hungry. get the supplies ready). Any advice on what you think of both? News, current events, my dogs, working out/running. Do you guys have any questions about medicine, surgery, medical school … I'll try to edit stuff down the road. So we got treated like shit, but we also did a lot of surgery. Orthobullets for common ortho mgmt. Once you've seen it done once, however, you should be able to pick up on what supplies are needed. Try to get a few things done in medical school. Figure out when to seem interested and ask questions, when to sit back and just do work. The 5 least healthy were general surgeons, psychiatrists, ob/gyns, pediatricians, and critical care physicians. Ranking at or near the top of your class, and a COMLEX score in the 85th percentile or above, are baseline qualifications for competitive applicants. Learn how to splint well. Orthopedic surgeon arrested, charged with possession of opioids with intent to deliver Coronavirus delays trial of spine surgeon who fled US after allegedly performing 500+ unnecessary surgeries Feds, surgical groups reach $77.2M settlement over allegedly illegal referral arrangement I have spent 23 hours operating on one patient (and I am a fast surgeon) fixing 16 broken bones. Used to be one general ortho surgeon could do surgeries all over the body. Private practice is still the most common form of employment. Bad day in the OR? Seeing all the shiny gadgets, watching some dude using a 10 lb mallet to whack a flex nail out of a kids tibia was an "A-ha" moment of clarity. We do that. We also have some of the coolest toys. I had no idea this is an option. This is also when you learn the most of ortho knowledge base and the curve is steep because med school does not prepare you for ortho. Don’t be weird at interview, How competitive are residency spots? Background: I'm a board certified orthopaedic surgeon. But since i saw a derm post, we should be good. Two friends who are Colorectal surgeons, take no general surgery call, and have a largely elective practice with very reasonable hours. Hoppenfelds for surgical approaches. It’s true for surgeons too because surgeons are also doctors. I would hope that we think you guys are just part of the team. The fields are completely different. Also as a neurosurg your options of living are limited. We'll also discuss how you can set yourself up for success early on if this is something you’re interested in. Our orthopedic services team includes surgeons, specialists, therapists and technicians. Now i'm not saying that's necessarily true, but EVERYONE has a MSK complaint at some point. best. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. And this segment of pay i believe will likely increase in the future. I love mid levels. Orthopedic surgeon: Benefits. Don't ask to go home early. Mastery of your field: Like the derm post, no one knows your field like you do. Because that's going to be the majority of your life during residency. Especially PMR interventionalists. And if you're talking about spine and back pain? Whenever I reviewed resident candidates I didn’t even look. General surgeons, ortho, and vascular guys work a lot on call. I felt that the south and southeast were more frat bro , north east was more bookish. If you wanna make over a million a year, you're probably going to work for it. Depends on the program. Some results: rheumatologists are happiest, dermatologists are healthiest, 1/3 of docs were … So USMLE is important and then your letters of recommendation. On the downside, it's gen surg and it's intern year. This is private practice with all the limits in income self imposed. Felt a twinge in that shoulder while lifting weights? Gotta suck it up and push through. Know where the reds, blues and yellows are. There was a report on Twitter I saw where 100% of female physicians reported being harassed and from what I have seen Id say it’s probably true. Ask Spine Surgeons is a weekly series of questions posed to spine surgeons around the country about clinical, business and policy issues affecting spine care. If you're taking care of lacs in the ED, be willing/able to sew it up. Patients are offered the most current and evidence-based treatment options, customized to their lifestyle. Is it more like, “oh that’s cute”, or is there any sort of respect at all? Academic medicine has a higher floor and lower ceiling, Salary is definitely related to how many cases you do in private practice. This year I did ~500 operations, Sure message me and I’ll figure out if that works. Orthopedists are a very healthy group, at least according to their self-reported scores. It depends much more on career and circumstances. 99 votes, 201 comments. hide. Hospital systems are also buying groups up -often times a group of aging surgeons looking to be bought out for a golden parachute or guys that can’t survive out in the wild. Try to get in with someone who publishes a lot to get your name on a paper in JBJS. Posted by 6 years ago. There's plenty of consultants hitting 60-80 hour weeks, but there's probably also lots in the US. Thanks for the great write-up! Orthopedic surgeon lifestyle is not easy. But when you are an attending you run the show so just tell them to go F off. I feel I have good enough stats (260+ step 1, AOA, honors in all clinical rotations so far, engineering background) to be a competitive applicant for ortho, but my question is more about lifestyle. Most neurosurg come out and go into spine. Thus people often do work over 60+ hours a week because you're either all in or not making money. This is becoming more popular because it’s more secure. Doesn't hurt to stay fit. This will vary with the program. of fractures. The non-spine Ortho stuff or the non spine neurosurg stuff. First of all it helps if the person interviewing you knows the person that wrote the letter. But if you HATE spine like I do, then your options are more limited. Possibly 1 year internship. Six spine surgeons offer advice to medical residents who are considering taking up spine. Not OP but Handbook of fractures, Netter's orthopedic anatomy are good places to start, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the medicalschool community. Its not chill like the ROADS specialities. Thank you for the post, I like your username. Trauma surgery is intense. Since MSK makes up the majority of the body, and we're responsible for that, in turn there's a shit ton of surgeries to play with. Am starting MS4 in a few months and am thinking ortho as a summer elective. Housekeeping: Due to the way residency is structured, residents now are getting less hands on experience than ever. yep. I game a bit but that hobby is practically dead since I have a 1 year old now. So surgeons of reddit, do you really work 80+ hours per week? So this is your chance to do everything NOT in your fellowship so that when you're an attending, you don't forget the other stuff. Before you decide to become a surgeon, you should consider whether you want to study hard, work hard, make some sacrifices regarding your personal life, help people, and enjoy a rewarding but demanding career. Hey all, I'm a current M3 and have narrowed down my specialty choice to three fields, with ortho being one of them. I’m in a group of 20 other orthopods. Ortho is not exempt from this lol. Ortho is less life and death, less serious. There is a whole art to the LOR including a lot of coded language in the letter itself, Research is becoming more important for applications unfortunately. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Ortho that’s hit or miss, but certainly not mandatory. Side Note: Didn't see an ortho post so figured i'd fill in a blank. The bad is that your surgical experience will suffer. Now, we have a guy that operates on the left shoulder exclusively (/s). Surgeons 70 and older report performing an average of 19 procedures per month. As a surgicalist, i work seven 24 hour shifts a month and get 23 days off, so my lifestyle i would argue is better than most. 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